Discussion-4 Giving wrong meanings to verses


On youtube, some people (who usually delivers hate on islam) write some verses from quran that those verses are unbelievable, nonsense.
Here are some of them;
First of all let’s look what and how do they write the verses. This is from youtube; a respond to my message;
LOL. The Qur'an claims that the sun sets in a muddy pool (18:86), that semen is formed between the backbone and ribs (86:6-7), that the earth is flat (88:20), that there are seven earths (65:12), that the sun orbits the earth (36:38-40), that human embryos are blood-clots (22:5), that the sky would fall on the earth if Allah didn't hold it up (22:65), and that stars are missiles that Allah uses to shoot demons who try to sneak into heaven (37:6-10; 67:5).
Below are original verses mentioned above and the explanation;
blue=verses, black=explanation

:D I am just laughing when people show such verses that they are nonsense. I don't know but I want to ask a question "why do human read something in its own words one to one, word by word?" why don't humans think that this is a holly book, and its writer(God) must have given a meaning to such verses in 7th century when people couldn’t understand today’s science?

Don't you use similitude on your books, poems, novels or even in your daily life? Let's look at verses;
22.65 - Seest thou not that Allah has made subject to you (men) and that is on the Earth, and the ships that sail through the Sea by His command? He withholds the Sky (rain) from falling on the Earth except by His leave: for Allah is the Most Kind ant Most Merciful to man.
22.65- in this verse according to you, in 7 th century should God have said that I had created physics and air, atmosphere, birds were on air with the permission of me? Who could understand physics in 7 th century? This verse means that (God says) I have created the universe from the begining, and put the rules; all of the things have been happening and occuring because I want them. This verse does not say that God has hands and hold sky up. He does not have hands but the (his)rules of universe put it up, if not that day there will be dooms day and do you know how God describes the doomsday in Quran? He says that day all mountains will be like rolls of rope and they will be thrown right and left like a cotton. What is it then...easy... it is similitude. Maybe it would be like an enormous earthquake or planets will leave their orbits and hit each other. we don't exactly know how it iwill happen but scientists have some comments, theories.
67.5 - And We have, (from of old), adorned the lowest heaven with Lamps, and We have made such (Lamps) (as) missiles to drive away the Evil Ones, and have prepared for them the Penalty of the Blazing Fire.
67.5- In this verse the "evil" mentioned are "people" and stars are the lamps and missiles. As you must know from the stories of prophets from other holy books we know that God destroyed some tribes by earthquake, explosion of volcanos, flood and meteors n comets. Again there is a deep meaning that you can understand.
18.86 - Until, when he reached the setting of the sun, he found it set in a spring of murky water: near it he found a people: we said: O Zul Qarnain (thou hast authority,) either to punish them, or to treat them with kindness.
18.86- Incas believed that there were two suns. Most scientists thought that incas had relation with aliens. One day a scientist proved that  on one day of a year, when you look at the horizon, the sun shows itself and a reflection of it under the real sun. When you look, you see two suns. So what about this verse. The writer on youtube says that sun is in mud. It was not in mud but maybe seen to the prophet Zul Qarnain as if it was in mud. Maybe the place he visited was a settlement by a big lake, or ocean. How can we know? We dont.
86.5- Now let man but think from what he is created! 86.6- He is created from a drop emitted 86.7 - Proceeding from between the backbone and the ribs: 86.8- Surely (Allah) is able to bring him back (to life)!
86.5-6-7- God doesn't say that semen is formed, it goes out from the backbone and the ribs. Whether God wants to say that it is formed from those bones, then it is the work of medicine to prove the opposite. Maybe God mentions the sexual organ placed between our ribs and backbone, or maybe the source of semen. Maybe blood cells which produces semen because our blood cells are produced by marrow. Root cell is very importnt nowadays too. Doesn't this news prove that source of sperm is bone? I have found that news recently. Quran shows you the way, it is your duty to search and find. Lots of inventions were found after reading Quran and giving sort of meanings to it. Scientists produce sperm from bone marrow, click to learn.  http://discovermagazine.com/2007/jul/babies-from-bone-marrow


22.5 - O mankind! if ye have a doubt about resurrection, (consider) that we created you out of dust, then out of Sperm, then out of a leech like clot, then out of a morsel of flesh, partly unformed, in order that We may manifest (our power) to you; and We cause whom We will to rest in the wombs For an appointed term, Then do we bring you out as babes, then (foster you) that ye may reach your age Of full strength; and some of you are called to die, and some are sent back to the feeblest old age, So that they know nothing after having know (much). And (further), thou seest the earth barren and lifeless, but when We pour down rain on it, it is stirred (to life), it swells, and it puts forth every kind of beautiful growth (in pairs).
22.5- God says "like clot" not clot. And also what is clot? a piece of high density blood. Doesn't a baby in its first weeks look like a clot? After 5-6 weeks baby becomes a human and its heart begins to beat. Let's look at the baby in its 5th week. And in its 3-4th week it is a dot(spot or clot etc).
4th week


5th week

36.37 - And a Sign for them is the Night: We withdraw therefrom the Day, and behold they are plunged in darkness; 36.38 - And the Sun runs his course for a period determined for him: that is the decree of (Him), The Exalted in Might, the All knowing. 36.39 - And the Moon, we have measured for her mansions (to traverse) till she returns like the old (and withered) lower part of a date stalk. 36.40 - Is not permitted to the Sun to catch up the Moon, nor can the Night outstrip the Day: each (just) swims along in (its own) orbit (according to Law) .
36. 37-38-39-40 - Have you read anything about Sun orbits Earth? In fact God says Sun orbits on its way. You know this is a scientific fact. Moons turn around their mother planets, all planets turn around Sun and finally Sun turns around another center point..Maybe Sun is a member of another system and it turns around a bigger star or Sun turns around the center of the creation of the universe. The first creation point. In space all planets turn around a Star and even that star turns around of an other center(or star). Space is expanding and turning. This is the source of gravity.

While lots of people give one to one meaning to the verses of Quran, lots of scientists know what God wants to teach us and show us the miracles. As God says in Quran, who wants to will see the miracles.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uo6xrl6-r4E


So my friends some people give different meanings to the verses of Quran than the meanings they have. They read it one to one words. If there is mud in the verse, they think it is mud. If sky stays over us and God holds it, then they believe God has hands and hold it. In some other ways He holds it, that's true. On the day it isn't held, Doomsday will be happen :)
Also the ships sail on sea because He gives permission.. to what? It does not mean that He speaks to ships and then they sail. It means physics. there is a Lifting force of the water on earth because He creates the universe and put the rules.
Science and religion does not contradict. Because in other words God is science, science is God. They can not be seperated. Only some imams in Islam and some priests in Christianity or in all others in all other religions, those guys were/are idiots. They have prevented science. They wanted to make the kings as their slaves. They wanted to use them. They taught that they were/are the hands of God on earth. God has spoken to them etc..
I hope you have understood what I mean on this page. To learn the truth about Islam you should read the whole Quran with the deep meaning it has in. I try to add other verses and try to explain more if I see on youtube. One last verse; remember now.. On home page, look up Captain Cousteau's discovery about seas and rivers. Because in Quran God says "I put curtains between rivers and seas, they dont mix each other" So does it mean that there are real curtains between them. Even a child laughs if someone undertsands it like that. Again similitude. God just wants to state waters on earth doesnt mix each other and science has proved that.
In Quran when a verse gives real facts of science or the evidences left from old tribes, He says "Dont you see the facts. We have showed you all the evidences. Why dont you believe me? and still reject me"
Let’s look what I mean from an example in Quran, here is one of the verse;
2.164- Indeed, in the creation of the heavens and earth, and the alternation of the night and the day, and the [great] ships which sail through the sea with that which benefits people, and what Allah has sent down from the heavens of rain, giving life thereby to the earth after its lifelessness and dispersing therein every [kind of] moving creature, and [His] directing of the winds and the clouds controlled between the heaven and the earth are signs for a people who use reason.
The bold phrase or similar is written lots of times in Quran. So God says I have given you the evidences then you must believe me, worship me and thank me for what I give you.